NYT: Impeachment rightfully gives losers tyranny over winners

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At the NYT, hard Leftist Michelle Goldberg explains that impeachment offsets the tyranny of the Electoral College, giving losers their rightful victory.

. . . "Before I get to the opinion piece, though, do I need to remind you that presidential elections in America are governed by the Electoral College? Since I know that my readers have a high level of intelligence and knowledge, I almost certainly don’t need to offer that reminder. Nevertheless, I think it’s easier to understand how horrific the NYT opinion piece is if you remind yourself about the constitutional background.
"If you want to read about it at the source, the Electoral College is right there in the Constitution, at Article II, Section 1, Clause. The whole point of the Electoral College is to ensure that America is not a direct democracy but is, in fact, a representative democracy, including representative votes for the president. The Founders deliberately put all sorts of layers between voters and their government.
"For starters, we don’t run the country on a giant town hall basis, which would be the most direct democracy of all, with every single action of the United States being put to all the voters. Instead, we elect representatives who carry out the will of the people who placed them in office." . . .

A Theology of the Electoral College

Just Thinking…for Myself  "Applying biblical truth to social, political, and theological issues in our world."

. . . "Please understand that in stating the aforementioned, I am in no way inferring or implying that the United States Constitution is a theological document in and of itself.

"I am not saying that at all.

"What I am saying, however, is that the protections that are inherent within it are clearly and unarguably rooted and grounded in the doctrine of the sinfulness of human beings.

"The Electoral College is but one example of this.

“Every soul has its nature in Adam until it is born again in Christ. The unregenerate soul is unclean and sinful both in condition and in action.” – R. Stanton Norman, from A Theology for the Church, edited by Daniel L. Akin, chapter 8, Human Sinfulness, p. 434

"Regardless if the Founders were deists, theists, agnostics, or even atheists, they clearly had an appreciation (if not an affinity) for the fact that human beings are innately sinful and, as such, are susceptible to the temptations and seductions that invariably accompany positions of power and influence.

"So, it is in that sense that I am most thankful to God for the wisdom bestowed upon the Founding Fathers in giving our nation both the Constitution and, conversely, the Electoral College, as safeguards that exist for the purpose of protecting us from ourselves."

“ 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” – Romans 3:23 (NASB)"

The Democrats’ Plan To Steal The Presidency For Good –

  Issues & Insights (issuesinsights.com)

"There’s an old joke, funny mostly because it’s so true: “Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.” If you’re not in the majority, you’re the sheep, and you are eaten."

Electoral College, 2024. Source: Chessrat, via Wikimedia Commons. Public Domain.

"While Americans brace for another contentious presidential election, the Democrats have a better idea: Subvert the Constitution in the name of “democracy.” Once again, the party of the left shows why it’s losing Americans’ trust.

"Quietly but steadily, the Democratic Party has been advancing its latest bold idea to create a uni-party state: A “National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.”

"In case you missed it, the Associated Press reported last week that “Maine will become the latest to join a multistate effort to elect the president by popular vote,” the 17th state to do so.

"As the AP noted, “Under the proposed compact, each state would allocate all its electoral votes to whoever wins the national popular vote for president, regardless of how individual states voted in an election.”

"The goal of this “movement” — it’s really a plot — is to get enough states to join to get to the magic number of 270 electoral votes, the amount needed to win the Electoral College. With Maine, the group now claims 209 electoral votes, a mere 61 away from their goal.

"What’s wrong with this picture? Nothing, except it’s an out-and-out attempt at subverting the protections placed in the Constitution to keep from having a national popularity contest for the presidency. This is what Democrats call “democracy.” In fact, it’s a recipe for mob rule.

"Our founders, who were extraordinarily wise and deeply steeped in both political history and philosophy, understood very well: Nations that start as law-respecting republics (America, in case you didn’t know, is a republic, a representative democracy, not a pure democracy) and employ “majority rules” quickly devolve into dictatorships.

"That was the whole reason for the Electoral College, which plays a vital role in determining our president by giving states a role in the election of a president. The media understand this, as a recent ABC News headline shows: “State law takes U.S. a step closer to popular vote deciding presidential elections”." . . .

Illegal immigrants could elect Hillary

"How noncitizens decrease Republican chances of winning the White House next year."

Politico

"Illegal immigrants—along with other noncitizens without the right to vote—may pick the 2016 presidential winner. Thanks to the unique math undergirding the Electoral College, the mere presence of 11-12 million illegal immigrants and other noncitizens here legally may enable them to swing the election from Republicans to Democrats.

"The right to vote is intended to be a singular privilege of citizenship. But the 1787 Constitutional Convention rejected allowing the people to directly elect their President. The delegates chose instead our Electoral College system, under which 538 electoral votes distributed amongst the states determine the presidential victor. The Electoral College awards one elector for each U.S. Senator, thus 100 of the total, and D.C. gets three electors pursuant to the 23^rd Amendment. Those electoral numbers are unaffected by the size of the noncitizen population. The same cannot be said for the remaining 435, more than 80 percent of the total, which represent the members elected to the House. " . . .

"The distribution of these 435 seats is not static: they are reapportioned every ten years to reflect the population changes found in the census. That reallocation math is based on the relative “whole number of persons in each state,” as the formulation in the 14^th Amendment has it. When this language was inserted into the U.S. Constitution, the concept of an “illegal immigrant,” as the term is defined today, had no meaning. Thus the census counts illegal immigrants and other noncitizens equally with citizens. " . . .

Elizabeth Warren's call to abolish the Electoral College is part of a pernicious pattern

Monica Showalter  "Unlike, say, Beto O'Rourke, who offers nothing upstairs, or Kamala Harris, who flits with the wind with regard to what she's in favor of, Elizabeth Warren is a Democratic presidential candidate with some specific ideas.

"And they're not good ones. 

"Here's what's probably her worst, from Twitter:

Elizabeth Warren

✔ @ewarren

Every vote matters. We need to get rid of the Electoral College so that presidential candidates have to ask every American in every part of the country for their vote, not just those in battleground states. #WarrenTownHall

"It's a programmatic call from the worst of the Democratic electoral operatives' dream book: to wipe out the constitution and replace it with riggings for Democrats.  With Warren, it's now coming into the mainstream as a respectable idea.

"It's also awful, an idea clothed in the California-style slogan of "count all the votes," which is the rationale used for the open practice of ballot-harvesting there.  "Count all the votes."  "Every vote matters..."

"What it is is a bid to second-guess and smash up the wisdom of the founding fathers for the sole reason that Democrats don't like losing.  Call it the Democrat Pacifier for Permanent Power Act of 2020."

Save the Electoral College

The Republican electors find that Hate Trumps Love (Updated)

"He said he’s been getting death threats via email, snail mail, Twitter and Facebook.
“ 'Somebody threatened to put a bullet in the back of my mouth,” Banerian, 22, told The Post on Wednesday."

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop Trump  

"Electors around the country are being harassed with a barrage of emails, phone calls and letters — and even death threats — in an effort to block Donald Trump from being voted in as president by the Electoral College on Monday.

"The bullying is overwhelming Sharon Geise’s tech devices, but not her resolve to support Trump.

"The Mesa, Arizona, grandmother woke up Wednesday morning to more than 1,500 emails demanding she not carry out her legal duty to vote for the president-elect." . . .

Prof. Lawrence Lessig: Our attempt to steal the election is going well  "In Colorado, a judge ruled against Clinton electors who claimed a right to vote against how state law required them to vote. So Lessig’s theory, advanced by many people, that electors can vote however they want even in states where they are bound, has so far not found any judicial authority."

. . . "The “Hamilton Electors” movement, or whatever other name you want to give to Operation Flip the Electors, is nothing short of an attempt to rewrite the election rules after the fact. Like saying after a football game that the team with the most yardage should win even though it didn’t score the most points." . . .

Supposedly tolerant NYC is making the Trump kids’ lives ‘horrible’

. . . "Protesters in the city may chant, “Love trumps hate,” but that’s not stopping some from piling on Donald Trump’s family." . . .

Pa. releases Trump electors' contact info, GOP slams "unprecedented harassment"  "Republican Party officials say they believe the Pennsylvania Department of State willfully disregarded open records protections when it released the contact information of President-elect Donald Trump's electors, opening them up to harassment"

"These electors were never on the ballot, nor were they ever candidates," Sweeney said. "Nevertheless, Governor Tom Wolf's Department of State chose to break with precedent and release the phone numbers and home addresses of Pennsylvania's twenty electors."

The Myth of Hillary’s Popular Vote 'Victory'  "Many modern liberals are fascists at heart who can’t accept losing power; that’s why Bush wasn’t “their” president.

"Those liberals are currently bemoaning the fact that Hillary won the popular vote which, according to them, means she should really be president, though were the case reversed we all know they’d be extolling the virtues of the Electoral College.

"Driven by a lust for power liberals don’t get that everyone has to follow the rules; demanding the rules change when you lose so that you can win" . . . 

Celebrities urge electors to flip. Well, that's good enough for me.

Even the Washington Post said, Griping about the popular vote? Get over it.  . . . "Aiming for 270 electoral votes out of 538, both Clinton and Trump focused on 13 swing states; Trump won that contest-within-a-contest by 816,000 votes." . . .

Hat tip to Lucianne for much of the above research.

Update: Electoral college voters will NOT rebel against Trump they say - as they tell of desperate appeals from 'idiots' to oppose president-elect on Monday  . . . "Associated Press interviews with more than 330 electors from both parties found little appetite for a revolt.

"Whether they like Trump or not, and some plainly don't, scores of the Republicans chosen to cast votes in the state-capital meetings told AP they feel bound by history, duty, party loyalty or the law to rubber-stamp their state's results and make him president. 

"Appeals numbering in the tens of thousands - drowning inboxes, ringing cellphones, stuffing home and office mailboxes with actual handwritten letters - have not swayed them." . . .

Hillary’s Last Gasp

By Fred Lucas  . . . "It would have to be all or nothing for Hillary to become the first woman president. If just two states flip to Clinton, Trump still wins. For instance, suppose the two most populous states switch and Hillary wins Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes and Michigan’s 16, that would bring her to just 266 and Trump down to exactly 270. A two-state scenario that includes Wisconsin’s 10 votes means even less." . . .

The Democrats’ real strategy in launching recounts  . . . "The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters.  If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232.  No one hits 270.  

. . . 

"If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as result from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it?  The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote  (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress."

Jill Stein's vote count madness  . . . "But leftists are experts at deploying deception and chicanery to achieve their ends by whatever means necessary.  And the serial offender Democrats by any name are up to no good on this one.

"Consider the plot developed so far:" . . .

Jill Stein Faces Uphill Battle in Pennsylvania Recount Suit

Stein’s Recount Crusade In Pennsylvania Riddled With Hurdles...Like The Fact That She Missed The Deadline . . . "But can these voting machines be tampered with? Yeah, but that would be an arduous process in which someone would have to enter the warehouse that’s under 24-hour surveillance, where all 4,500 machines are stored—and the tamper with all the machines over a period of four months. In other words, there’s really nothing to these accusations of fraud (via CBS Pittsburgh):" . . .

Hillary Clinton supporters need to quit whining about the Electoral College; The Founding Fathers got it right, and California is proof

MarketWatch  via Drudge

"Second, Clinton’s 2.3-million-popular-vote plurality over Trump depends on the votes in a single state: California. Clinton has more than a 4-million-vote plurality over Trump there. In the other 49 states plus the District of Columbia, Trump actually has a 1.7-million-popular-vote plurality over Clinton. So California single-handedly turns a Trump plurality into a Clinton plurality."

Video discussion here.

. . . "Many die-hard Clinton supporters cannot bring themselves to believe their candidate could lose to Donald Trump. They think: How could such a crude and inept con man be elected president? Even after it has happened, it is unthinkable, a nightmare. So, the election must not have been fair.

"Those on the fringe raise the specter of diabolical Russians hacking away at our democracy. More grounded Clintonians have less malevolent boogeymen — our Founding Fathers. As they see it, the election’s outcome should be blamed on a dysfunctional and archaic electoral vote system. Hillary won the national popular vote. She should be president. It is as simple as that. The Electoral College should go the way of Trump University.

"They are right about one thing: Hillary did win the national popular vote. As votes continued to trickle in three weeks after Election Day, Clinton received 50.9% of the two-party vote to 49.1% for Trump. With about 135 million votes counted, Clinton has 2.3 million more votes than Trump.

"Yet Clinton has only 232 electoral votes (in 20 states plus Washington, D.C.) to Trump’s 306 (in 30 states plus one from Maine), making him the president-elect. So Trump’s election without a popular-vote plurality is regarded as an injustice. Some Democrats claim a moral victory as victims of an electoral vote system that once again horribly “misfired.” Their claim, however, neglects two facts." . . .

Under our electoral vote system, American voters elected a national president, not California’s choice.

Reminder: In 2016 Democrats Threatened and Harassed Members of Electoral College to Stop Trump

Legal Insurrection

“I’ve had people talk about putting a bullet in the back of my mouth.”

"As we watch Democrats and their many friends in media melt down over Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election over alleged voter fraud, it’s important to remember where we were four years ago after Trump’s surprise 2016 victory.

"Not only were Democrats claiming that Russia stole the election for Trump, they harassed members of the Electoral College in a last ditch effort to prevent Trump from being certified as the winner.

"In December of 2016, Mark Moore reported at the New York Post:

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop Trump

Electors around the country are being harassed with a barrage of emails, phone calls and letters — and even death threats — in an effort to block Donald Trump from being voted in as president by the Electoral College on Monday.

The bullying is overwhelming Sharon Geise’s tech devices, but not her resolve to support Trump.

The Mesa, Arizona, grandmother woke up Wednesday morning to more than 1,500 emails demanding she not carry out her legal duty to vote for the president-elect.

“They just keep coming and coming,” Geise told The Post, estimating she’s received more than 50,000 emails since the election. “They’re overpowering my iPad.”…

Reports of GOP electors being badgered have been reported in numerous states, including Georgia, Idaho, Tennessee, Arizona, Utah and Michigan.

Like Geise, Republican Patricia Allen of Tennessee told The Post she’s been bombarded with 2,000 emails, 120 letters and five phone calls all urging her to switch and vote against Trump. But Allen, 74, said that despite the “siege,” she’s not budging.

"One elector told CNN he was getting death threats: . . ."

Democrats between O'Rourke and a hard place

Image by Mike Harris

Beto: 'I Think There’s a Lot of Wisdom' in Abolishing Electoral College   "Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke believes abolishing the Electoral College is a wise idea—apparently knowing better than the founding fathers.

"Responding to a question posed by MSNBC correspondent Garrett Haake about getting rid of the Electoral College, O’Rourke said he “sees a lot of wisdom in that" idea." . . . 

Bobby Francis raised $6.1 Million in 1st 24 hours, slightly topping Bernie and leaving female candidates in the dust   . . . "Question is, how long will the Democrat Party have to tolerate O’Rourke? Politico noted that O’Rourke drew in large crowds, but it didn’t go smoothly:

Four days into his presidential campaign, O’Rourke’s supporters are still stuffing themselves into coffee shops and living rooms across the Midwest to see the Democratic sensation as he motors east from Iowa to New Hampshire in a Dodge Grand Caravan. And O’Rourke by the weekend was moving deliberately to speak more specifically about policy, to hold more organized events and to mend his relationship with the media.

. . . "O’Rourke couldn’t give many straight answers when it came to policy. He also offended some when he said that he sometimes helps his wife raise their three kids. That led to an apology and him admitting he has “white privilege.”

"It doesn’t help that O’Rourke’s website is filled with merchandise and lacks his position on issues. I looked it up this weekend and found his website bland. I had to navigate news websites in order to find where he stands on issues. Those in Iowa noticed his lack of answers:" . . .

Beto-mania and Our Cult of Personality Politics   "A charismatic candidate develops a cult of personality, then uses the party apparatus as a platform not for any ideas, but rather to promote a celebrity brand."

Giant Rock Sculpture of Beto's Face Appears in Austin   . . . "The press insisted it was no big deal that Beto livestreamed a trip to the dentist, and they're already racking their brains to excuse his habit of jumping up on restaurant countertops with his filthy feet. They're projecting all their hopes and dreams onto him, and they're not going to let reality spoil the party."  . . . Worshippers gather from around the world to touch it!

To use a stupid phrase: The Democrats’ favorite privileged white male has finally found himself.

"Friends of the young Bill Clinton and Barack Obama spoke of the special glow of promise they had about them, even back in their early twenties. Angels sat on their shoulders. History gave them a wink and said, “Hey, good lookin’, I’ll be back to pick you up later.”

"Robert O’Rourke? Not so much. He was just a weirdo. That isn’t my word, it’s how his friends saw him. “You’re supposed to make friends with future secretaries of state, not weirdo musicians,” one O’Rourke pal, Adam Mortimer, told the New York Times. “It’s like, wait, one of the weirdo musicians might run for president.”  . . .

National popular vote bill could give Democrats permanent control of White House

Brenner Brief  "Democrats have quietly been working on a way to usurp the Constitution and subvert presidential elections forever. In the interest of being fair and balanced however, many misguided Republicans have signed on to this also. It’s called the National Popular Vote Bill and it could well give Democrats permanent control of the White House." ...

... "That is music to the Democratic Party’s ears. If Democrats can get this bill passed in enough states to reliably grant them the magic 270 Electoral College votes, they will wrap up the White House for decades to come. The heavily populated areas and big cities are right in the Democrats’ wheelhouse, and the blue states contain the majority of those areas. Imagine if all presidential campaigns were waged entirely in big cities and rural America was ignored. It would become a Santa Claus contest where each candidate must promise more goodies than the other to win and no matter who won that contest, America would lose."   More...

Look at this night photo of the US. If the US went from the Electoral College to the popular vote, the president would be elected by the voters in the brightest lit areas; virtually all campaigning would be done in those areas with little regard for the voters in the central area.  The Electoral College is a deterrent to movement candidates as a rule, but seemed to fail in 2008 and 2012. Liberal press, entertainment and academia played a great part in the choices we made then.TD

 

Democrats against the Electoral College

D'Souza shuts down socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Cortez: A governmentally-ignorant politician being chosen by the governmentally ignorant.

Parents, If We’re Going to Have Smart Government—Teach Your Kids Civics

"In the fall of 2012, I excitedly began my senior year government class. I was about to sit through a course on our system of government while also watching it play out right before my eyes on its biggest stage during the 2012 election. Much to my chagrin, nobody else seemed even remotely as thrilled. Throughout the next five months, blank stares and snores engulfed the classroom with unmistakable indifference. In those moments, it hit me just how far we had fallen.

"Recently, I was struck by a similar feeling. I came across yet another condemnation of our system of representative government on Twitter. Waleed Shahid, a former advisor to New York Congressional Candidate and Democratic Socialist heartthrob Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, said the Senate is not democratic enough because less populous states receive the same representation as high-population states. But this is the very point of the Senate. Without equal representation in one house of Congress, large states would be able to run roughshod over smaller states. Yet this fact is continually ignored by civically-illiterate citizens eager to support their points of frustration against Trump’s agenda." . . .

The 12th Amendment of the Constitution established the Electoral College
Democrats made a tremendous effort to contact electors in 2016 and ask them to change their vote from Trump to Clinton. To her shame, she did not stand up for Constitutional government.

Put another way, without the Electoral College, the states in blue would have made Clinton our president. 

Candidates would likely not have even campaigned in the states shown as red. (I hate saying "red states" since they are Republican). Red has always been the color of the Communist Party and was the color of the Soviet flag being waved outside the White House during Obama's inauguration. The Tunnel Dweller

Democrats have big ideas for scrapping republican democracy

"Now they want the electoral college to go, and tyranny of the majority to take precedence"

I have little confidence that today's voters are aware of the import of this. After all, they did vote for Bernie Sanders and Alexandria O-C, didn't they?

Monica Showalter  "Not content with just raising taxes and calling it 'good for us,' Democrats are arriving in this new Congress with big ideas. Big, big, very big, ideas.

"No more of that Clintonian reform around the edges, the small-fry midnight basketball thing, Democrat plans today are bigger. They'd like to start by remodeling the Constitution, for one.

"Because, after all, it always seemed to get in the way of their big plans to create a New Soviet, err, American Man, err, Myn, or whatever they call it, so now they're effectively admitting they've never liked it and now they want to get rid of it.

"One of them, incoming Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee, has put out a bill to eradicate the entire electoral college.

"According to CNN:

Washington (CNN)Rep. Steve Cohen has proposed two constitutional amendments, one that would abolish the Electoral College and another that would prohibit presidents from pardoning themselves, their families, members of their administration or their campaign staffs.

"The idea of course, is to institute "direct democracy" over the current republican form of government, and ultimately, tyranny of the majority. They'd very much like to rub out the votes of all those people who live in red states who voted for Trump, those bothersome places as Wisconsin, which take so much time and effort to travel to. That way, they can focus solely on coastal blue states and enable their lording it over the red states with no say-so from the latter. Writer Nick Nolte at Breitbart exposes the issue very well:" . . .

Anti-Trump Protesters Release Personal Info of Electoral College Members

Weasel Zippers

"We reported how a google spreadsheet was first posted by Twitter account, @VoteHillary2016 whose admin is Steve Rosinki, a man connected to the Clinton campaign. Shortly thereafter, reports started coming in of electors being harassed and intimidated. It appears the spreadsheet has made it down to the rank and file to continue harassing the electors.

"Via Free Beacon:

A national anti-Donald Trump group called the #NotMyPresident Alliance distributed the personal information of dozens of Electoral College members to its supporters on Wednesday through a Google doc spreadsheet.

The Electoral College members targeted were those who represented states that voted Republican, BuzzFeed reported.

A spreadsheet distributed to supporters Wednesday included the personal phone numbers, addresses, religions, races, genders, and candidate preference of the electors. The document does not have a complete set of data on every elector.

The group hopes that its members and citizens around the country will contact electors and persuade them to change their vote from Donald Trump to another candidate before Dec. 19, when electors cast their votes. The group does not advocate for Hillary Clinton or any other specific candidate, rather asking protesters to encourage electors from each state to a consensus that isn’t Trump.

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